Nu vreau sa intru intr-o polemica pe tema asta. In Amazon sau oricare afluent al lui nu exista Pterophyllum altum. Niciodata Pterophyllum din bazinul amazoniam nu va ajunge la dimensiunile si forma altum-ului din Orinoco. Sunt insa multi producatori care folosesc denumiri gen "Peruensis altum" si alte balarii. Nu exista altum in Peru asa cum nu exista nici in Malawi. Trebuie sa facem diferenta intre lucruri altfel ii denumim pe toti scalari si gata. Va atasez aici o discutie cu Heiko Bleher de pe FB:
Eu: good afternoon Sir
HB: good afternoon
Eu: I read that in 1970 or something an Fish farm was flooded on Nanay River shore and a lot of fish species finished in the wild
what do you know about this?
HB: it is all written up extensively in my Bleher's Discus volume 1 and volume 2. If you refere to Discus, than those escaped, because the boat sunk with 3000 Green disvus from the Rio Jutaí.
EU: how about Pterophyllum?
HB: the nanay variant is endemic
Eu: ohh, I understand
some voices say that it is an hybrid betwin Pterophyllum altum and Pterophylum scalare
HB: those who say that are idiots (I find no other word, as Nanay is Amazon basin and P. altum lives ONLY in the Orinoco basin).
Eu: They say that on that boat there were Alums also
and they combined with Nanay scalare
HB:there is no way a boat can travel from Orinoco to Amazon, unless the boat can fly - If you inform yourself correctly in serious literaturte, you can easily find the entire history. But not on the www. and not from idots
Eu: thank you for the info
HB:welcome
Eu:where can I find serious literature?
btw. The entire story of angelfishes from both river systems with photos was in DISCUSBOOK01, but is sold out. Also appeared in AMAZONAS issue last year.
it is also written in my books: Bleher's Discus volume 1 - and yearly in DISCUSBOOK - see
http://www.aquapress-bleher.comEu:thank you
I'm sorry that I'm bothering you with this kind of stuff
I'm just a beginner and the easyest source of info is the Internet
HB:and that is our today's main problem...
Eu:I agree with you Sir
April 9
good afternoon Sir
2:57pm
good afternoon
Acum... fiecare cum crede. Eu unul, daca as fi in stare sa tin altum (recunosc ca nu sunt) nu as tine altceva decat Pterophyllum de Orinoco si asta intr-un bazin de minim 70 cm inaltime pt ca la peste 40 cm cat ajunge...
L.E. Din punct de vedere genetic nu afli mare lucru daca incerci sa afli diferente interspecifice. Aici taxonomia este cea care ajuta. Stiti care este cea mai apropiata ruda a cimpanzeului din punct de vedere genetic? Ei bine nu este o alta maimuta ci chiar omul. Abea urmatoare in clasament este o alta maimuta, gorila.